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Permitted Paid Engagement visa
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Posted 2018-03-08 1:21 PM (#92522)
Subject: Permitted Paid Engagement visa
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Hi, I'm British and living in the UK. I have a Russian friend who is a professional artist who was looking to come over to the UK to teach 2 masterclasss/workshops in bas-relief sculpture for 13 days.

He applied for ' Permitted Paid Engagement visa' I sent over to him an official invitation letter with my info, dates & times of the classes when and where he will be staying etc.

He had the interview said it went well, but the final response was a refusal to issue a visa.
This was there written response

Your application for a visit visa to the United Kingdom has been refused. How your application was considered In deciding whether you meet the requirements of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for visitors ( I have considered:
 your application, and any additional relevant information you have provided with it  your immigration history The decision I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) 4.2 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors because:
 You state you will visit the UK for 13 days. You state you are employed and earn RUR 75,000 a month (Approx �1,000, �1 = RUR 75). Checks were made by our office to verify your employment; however despite out attempts we have been unable to confirm you are employed as stated. This casts serious doubt over your application as a whole.
 In light of the above, I am not satisfied that you are genuinely seeking entry for a purpose that is permitted by the visitor routes or that you intend to leave the UK on completion of your visit. I am not satisfied that there are sufficient funds to adequately cover the cost of your visit and maintain and accommodate you for the duration of your visit, or meet the cost of your onward or return journey. V4.2 (a, c, e) Future Applications Any future UK visa applications you make will be considered on their individual merits, however you are likely to be refused unless:
 your person circumstances change significantly between now and your next application
 you provide compelling new evidence with your next application In relation to this decision there is no right of appeal or right to administrative review.


We still want to make this happen as there is the demand for the class. So I have a few questions:-
1. Did we apply for the correct visa?
2. From there response it sounds like it was a verification of employment issua and they've directed us to 4.2 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors. But I cant find this anyway.
3. We had enough funds from the classes to support his stay and I stated I would be resoponsible for him. Is this not enough, and would he need to show he can support himself ofr 13 days even before he came over?
4. Is there a particular figure they base decisions on that would give an indication of how much you would need to prove you have the finances to support youself?
5. What sort of supporting documentation are they looking for?

I'm currently asking him somemore questions regarding his employment status. But as hes an artist Im pretty sure his status will be self-employed and income will probably be based on commissions for work.
Any help/guidance would be very much appreciated. As we are still trying to make this happen.


Posted 2018-03-08 4:50 PM (#92523 - in reply to #92522)
Subject: Re: Permitted Paid Engagement visa

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the 75,000pyr a month triggers warnings straight away due to teacher salaries are a lot less than that, plus he can not work on a visitor visa even for 13 days
Posted 2018-03-09 11:47 AM (#92524 - in reply to #92522)
Subject: Re: Permitted Paid Engagement visa
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Then why, on the UK government website does it state

You can apply for a Permitted Paid Engagement visa if you:
- want to come to the UK to do specific PAID WORK without having to be sponsored under the points-based visa system

This visa may well be classed as a visit visa but it also states that he can work for a short period.

So, if this not the correct visa what would be the visa he needs to apply for if he's coming to teach n art workshop for 13 days?

He applied for the Visa through and they have told him that he cant re-apply for another 6months have past. Does this sound correct?


Edited by wr_uk 2018-03-09 11:48 AM
Posted 2018-03-13 9:13 AM (#92538 - in reply to #92522)
Subject: Re: Permitted Paid Engagement visa
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I've had information back from a different UK visa forum and they say it is the correct visa.

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