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Adopted child visas for the UK
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IanJ
Posted 2011-12-04 10:36 PM (#48305 - in reply to #45656)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK
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Just a quick update on this:

We spoke to an adoption lawyer, who at first didn't see a way through this - then when we deposited a few hundred pounds in her account, she miraculously thought she could see a way for us to proceed. She referred us to another lawyer (an immigration specialist, because the first lawyer said she was only an adoption specialist), who also merrily took her fee....... and then after weeks of navel-gazing, the 2 of them decided we had no alternative than to go back to the inter-country adoption agency (where we started off 9 months ago!), and ask them to go through the full vetting and approval process which we had been advised against in the first place!!!

This is absolutely ridiculous and unbelievable. Looks like I'll contact the agency on Monday to start all over again.

Maxim (who is now 4 years old) is starting to attend "detskiy sad" in St Petersburg, and last time I visited he asked if the reason he couldn't come to England was because he didn't behave himself well enough - this is now heart-breaking because even a 4-year old can't believe that this process is taking so long. All against a background of a host of British hand-wringing social workers, who are "acting in the best interests of the children".

Back to square one!

Peterka
Posted 2013-04-08 12:35 PM (#57103 - in reply to #48305)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK
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Hi Ian,
How did it go at the end? I am about to be in the simular process.
Thanks a lot for any answer!
muffy
Posted 2013-04-11 10:06 AM (#57135 - in reply to #57103)
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Peterka - 2013-04-08 12:35 PM

Hi Ian,
How did it go at the end? I am about to be in the simular process.
Thanks a lot for any answer!


I would send Ian a PM as I don't think he comes on here very often.
IanJ
Posted 2013-04-13 12:04 PM (#57170 - in reply to #57135)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK
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Hello,

You're right I don't visit the site often, but just happened to log on today.

Here's an update on where we are - I can't believe so much time has gone by!

In the end, Olga and I completed our assessments etc with an organisation called PACT (www.pact.org) who work on behalf of Cambs council. This culminates in getting a "certificate of eligibility" from the Dept for Education.

We then went to court in St P and adopted the children (yes, we were waiting so long, that we adopted a daughter Dasha as well!) under Russian law (not acknowledged by the UK, by the way).

We are now in the process of getting Russian international passports for the children (Dasha age 3, Maxim age 5) - the next step after that will be to apply for entry clearance into the UK to re-adopt the children under UK law.

We guess we've got about another 4 months before they can enter the UK. In the meantime Olga has been living with them in our flat in St P, and I travel there when I can.

Our main complication was that Olga had adopted the children first in Russia without us seeking permission in the UK - however that has the enormous advantage that Russian children who are suitable for adoption are first offered to Russian nationals - the sad reality is there is a significant amount of corruption in this process.

I'd strongly advise anyone else to get their admin process completed in the UK before taking any further steps in Russia.

As you can see, this is a long and expensive process.

Regards,

Ian

Mel
Posted 2013-04-14 4:22 AM (#57187 - in reply to #57170)
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You will get there in the end......Respect...

Good Luck...

IanJ
Posted 2014-07-21 10:30 PM (#62552 - in reply to #57187)
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Hello,

I forgot to give an update on this!

We all flew to the UK in Dec 2013 after successfully getting entry clearance visas for the children and now we are living together in the UK!

Maxim has now been at primary school for 6 months and he loves it. Dasha is at pre-school.

Thanks to everyone on this site who gave advice.

Final step is adoption in the UK courts (which is largely a formality) and then they will be UK citizens.

Best of luck to anyone embarking on a similar journey!

Regards

Ian and Olga

senwd
Posted 2014-07-25 2:37 AM (#62577 - in reply to #45656)
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It'll probably be another few months before you logon again and see this - but hearty congratulations to you all. A long and difficult road travelled but just goes to show - Nil desperandum carburundum illegitami !
Mel
Posted 2014-07-25 4:15 PM (#62585 - in reply to #62577)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK


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senwd - 2014-07-25 7:37 AM It'll probably be another few months before you logon again and see this - but hearty congratulations to you all. A long and difficult road travelled but just goes to show - Nil desperandum carburundum illegitami !

Seconded.....

(Cannot remember my latin, can someone please oblige)...

Respect.....

Voot
Posted 2016-01-28 9:15 AM (#65803 - in reply to #45656)
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Congratulations. And thank you so much for all this excellent information.
Voot
Posted 2016-01-28 9:27 AM (#65806 - in reply to #45656)
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Ian, I'd really like to get in touch if possible. I might be heading for a similar situation. If you read this please let me know if it's possible to message you.
IanJ
Posted 2016-01-31 11:09 PM (#65818 - in reply to #65806)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK
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Hello

Yes, feel free to send a message.

I don't log in very regularly, but will try to respond.

My one main piece of advice would be to get approval in the UK before going through the Russian process.

Regards

Ian

IanJ
Posted 2016-02-01 12:09 AM (#65819 - in reply to #65818)
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Hello,

I just sent a reply. It shows as being in my Outbox, I'm hoping it will move to Sent soon.

Regards

Ian
Mel
Posted 2016-02-01 4:58 PM (#65822 - in reply to #65819)
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IanJ - 2016-02-01 5:09 AM Hello, I just sent a reply. It shows as being in my Outbox, I'm hoping it will move to Sent soon. Regards Ian

 

Hi Ian,

How's the children doing now, bet they are becoming a bit of a handful at times.

Would be interesting to hear.

You have my respect man, took a lot of time, patience and courage, well done the pair of you. 

IanJ
Posted 2016-02-03 12:24 AM (#65828 - in reply to #65822)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK
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Hello Mel,

Thanks for the kind words.

We have now embarked on another adventure After living in the UK for 2 years with the children (both going to school, now aged 5 and 8) we are taking the big decision to move to St Petersburg (which is where my wife is from).
The children are adorable (and very active and exhausting!)

We have bought some properties which we will rent out on short-term let basis in SPB.

You may think we are mad , but having lived in the UK does mean that the children can speak both English and Russian and they have dual nationality.

I have less ties to the UK than my wife has to Russia, so I'm quite excited about making the move.

At least we have benefited from the crazy exchange rate!

I am in the UK until I leave my job later this year.

Nobody can say we choose the easy options

Regards

Ian
Mel
Posted 2016-02-03 5:12 PM (#65829 - in reply to #65828)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK


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IanJ - 2016-02-03 5:24 AM Hello Mel, Thanks for the kind words. We have now embarked on another adventure After living in the UK for 2 years with the children (both going to school, now aged 5 and 8) we are taking the big decision to move to St Petersburg (which is where my wife is from). The children are adorable (and very active and exhausting!) We have bought some properties which we will rent out on short-term let basis in SPB. You may think we are mad , but having lived in the UK does mean that the children can speak both English and Russian and they have dual nationality. I have less ties to the UK than my wife has to Russia, so I'm quite excited about making the move. At least we have benefited from the crazy exchange rate! I am in the UK until I leave my job later this year. Nobody can say we choose the easy options Regards Ian

 

Good to hear that the children are doing well, and thanks for the update.

Check your pm's 

TomatoStrawberry
Posted 2017-11-04 7:49 AM (#91716 - in reply to #45656)
Subject: Re: Adopted child visas for the UK
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Hi, Ian! I hope you will receive this comment. I hope you have sorted your situation out and are living happily together. We are looking into adopting children from Russia. I am a Russian Citizen with British citizenship. My husband is English. Can I aak you some questions regarding your adoption please? Thank you.
TomatoStrawberry
Posted 2017-11-04 7:52 AM (#91717 - in reply to #45656)
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I’m sorry I’ve just seen your update. It’s great you are enjoying your parenthood. Children are blessing. Can I pm you please? Or better your wife as I’m Russian too!
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