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Poll Should Putin be allowed to be Prime Minister?
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Should Putin be allowed to be Prime Minister?
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Yes, this is not a problem, why shouldn't he9 Votes - [69.23%]
No, it is a break of the constitution and not good for a democratic Russia0 Votes - [0%]
it's not unconstitutional but it's not good for a democratic Russia4 Votes - [30.77%]
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Chris
Posted 2007-10-12 10:32 AM (#9101)
Subject: Should Putin be allowed to be Prime Minister?


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Do you agree with President Putin's attempt to stay at the centre of power in Russia by becomming Prime Minister when he steps down in March next year as a possible platform as a return as President in the future?
Malcolm
Posted 2007-10-12 10:50 AM (#9102 - in reply to #9101)
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For the majority of Russians, Putin is a great leader because he has single handedly forced Russia back onto the world stage as a power to be reckoned with. He has given Russians back their pride and self respect but there is still a lot to be done for health, housing, social welfare and democratic freedom. Of course Russians want him to continue because of his strength of leadership. For the west, he is seen as a regressive unreformed KGB man who wants to take Russia back to Soviet style autocracy.
So on the one hand it's good for Russia, on the other it's bad for the progress of democracy in Russia.
TonyH
Posted 2007-10-12 11:11 AM (#9105 - in reply to #9101)
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Through our BBC brain washed western eyes maybe Malcolm. But what does democracy bring ??? A prime minister that decides when to go to the contry dependant on how popular he is or how the ecomomy is doing ??? any less democratic ???

Edited by TonyH 2007-10-12 11:13 AM
scampypants
Posted 2007-10-12 12:30 PM (#9108 - in reply to #9101)
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Definition
democracy Show phonetics
noun
1 the belief in freedom and equality between people, or a system of government based on this belief, in which power is either held by elected representatives or directly by the people themselves:
The government has promised to uphold the principles of democracy.
The early 1990s saw the spread of democracy in Eastern Europe.

2 [C] a country in which power is held by elected representatives:
Few of the Western democracies still have a royal family

just to stir it up a bit
mym
Posted 2007-10-12 12:33 PM (#9109 - in reply to #9101)
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Of course, if they bring back the Romanovs there will be no president, and the prime minster will be the political leader...
Malcolm
Posted 2007-10-12 1:13 PM (#9112 - in reply to #9105)
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Never watch the BBC news Tony.
Gordon's days are numbered, Putin's ain't.

Like I said, he's good for Russia, not necessarily for Russians. But they like him, so that's fair enough.

Gordon is good for nothing and nobody likes him.
TonyH
Posted 2007-10-12 4:07 PM (#9116 - in reply to #9112)
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Malcolm - 12/10/2007 1:13 PM

Never watch the BBC news Tony.
Gordon's days are numbered, Putin's ain't.

Like I said, he's good for Russia, not necessarily for Russians. But they like him, so that's fair enough.

Gordon is good for nothing and nobody likes him.


He's better for Russians than say Yeltsin !!

The rest agreed........Clown Brown !!!
Chris
Posted 2007-10-15 11:00 AM (#9132 - in reply to #9116)
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It would not be difficult to be better than Yeltsin - the man was a nightmare for Russia.

As to if it is good for Russia, no I don't believe it is and will block reform, development and growth - remember it is like Blair / Brown - they only look good because there appears to be no credible alternative - but how does anyone know, especially when the opposition and media are kept under tight wraps.

The best thing he could do to ensure Russia’s prosperity and growth is to ensure an orderly handover and set the standards and support it, rather than act like a despotic leader desperately clinging to power in the arrogant belief that no one can do it like him (just what Maggie thought).

He should be thanked for stabilising the chaos of the post soviet Yeltsin era and he was the leader to do it, but dont be fooled, Russia has a long way to go and can't rely so significantly on oil and gas - Russia needs to foster the enterprise culture that is just waiting to burst free of the burocracy and corruption that stifle it and Putin is not the man to do this as he fears it as a loss of control and enjoys playing with mega business and international politics rather than "real people".

For me, therefore it is a "Spasibo i Do svidanya" and let the next generation take over without hindrance - likely to happen - naaaw, this is Russia after all!!

Chris
Malcolm
Posted 2007-10-15 11:22 AM (#9135 - in reply to #9132)
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That's strange Chris, you're now agreeing with everything I said that you disagreed with before

Chris
Posted 2007-10-15 11:45 AM (#9140 - in reply to #9135)
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Steady on now Malcolm, exactly what am I agreeing with - as I understand it I said Putin was the right leader for Russia then and now, but not in my opinion going forward.
justmeme
Posted 2007-10-16 10:28 PM (#9167 - in reply to #9112)
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Gordon brown putin lets sack gordon brown and ask putin to be our prime minister,and i am serious too
TonyH
Posted 2007-10-17 9:38 AM (#9181 - in reply to #9101)
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No most want to see Clown Brown or was that Crash Gordon humiliated first...not going to change what this country will go through ecconomically over the next couple of years even if he leaves office now. Better he has to face the music.

adamhaynes
Posted 2007-10-17 6:01 PM (#9193 - in reply to #9101)
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As I was told by a Russian earlier this week..."He's not an alcoholic, unlike the guy before him!"
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