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bobnic
Posted 2008-05-11 5:15 PM (#13328)
Subject: hi again folks
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hello again bob here, well i have been writing to this woman now for a few months ,but i got this email today,and from what i have been told and read on this site,is it not almost impossible for a single woman to gain entry into the country, i have never met her yet so i just wonderd is this another potential scam,can anybody put me straight again please here is the email


Hello my the best man Bob! I very much missed,
while was in Nizhni Novgorod. I have arrived today
from Nizhni Novgorod, conference has passed
successfully. Our department has received special
gratitude for high results of work, it has very
much pleased our chief. Well and me was not so
important, that there will tell, after all I
thought of you, and about our meeting! I worried,
that you miss my answer. Now I can write to you in
more details about all.
I today as soon as has arrived, was engaged in
preparation for our meeting!

I was in several agencies of travel, and to me
have told, how there is a visa reception, and that
I need to know.
At first I should conclude the contract with
agency on reception of the visa, the passport, the
insurance, tickets. It facilitates a problem for
me. The agency will search for the best variants
of arrival. The agency gives inquiry in embassy on
visa reception. That is I should not go most to
Moscow for this purpose.
As to me have told, I should do the tourist visa.
An optimum variant, it for a period of 3 months.
Now, as there is a process. At first I need to
conclude the contract with agency. There is a
passport reception, here in Kazan, then booking.
Most likely, I need to take off from Moscow from
the airport "the Sheremetyevo 2". I require the
information from you, at what airport you can meet
me. To what airport I should fly?
After tickets will be ordered, all necessary data
for the visa, together with my questionnaire go to
Moscow for approval. As soon as the visa is
approved, tickets need to be paid, it also enters
into contract cost.
To me have told, that in embassy approve 96
percent visas, that is with the visa I will not
have problems. After all I have all necessary
inquiries on health since I work in the state
organisation, instead of commercial.
After all these actions are executed, it is
necessary to wait. Expectation occurs not for
long, all documents will be ready in a current of
2 weeks.
Now we can solve what number to us most
conveniently to meet!
I think, that suitable date for our meeting is
June of 5. But it only my opinion, ìå also
is necessary to know your opinion in this
occasion. What you will tell?

By the way about Nizhni Novgorod. We with the
colleague had time a little to take a walk across
Nizhni Novgorod. We have hired scooters or mopeds,
I do not know, how correctly it is called. I very
much liked to go by it! Almost as on a bicycle,
only much faster, also it is not necessary to
apply efforts. You have such scooter? I was very
much inspired, driving on the scooter gives me a
lot of adrenaline!
What gives you the greatest portion of adrenaline?
At me now in blood very positive adrenaline. This
adrenaline appears from an anticipation of our
meeting. I try to assume, as it will be, that I
will feel, when for the first time I will see
you... I do not know, how it will be, but I am
assured - it was better than this event in my life
yet!

I communicated with my friends. I told it about
you, have told, that we are going to meet! My
friends are very glad for me, they have told, that
would like, that at us with you, in our relations,
there was all perfectly.
It was very pleasant to me to hear similar wishes
from my friends, and still they send you regards!

I will finish the letter for today. My thoughts
only about you and about our meeting!
Yours romantic Maria.

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any thoughts or suggestions please thanks bob
bobnic
Posted 2008-05-13 4:56 PM (#13339 - in reply to #13328)
Subject: RE: hi again folks
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well as expected here it comes the dreaded email saying she has a limited funds so again i guess it was just another scam,one that i was told maybe wasnt


Hello my lovely, my dream Bob. At me today solar
remarkable day! The sun brings heat to a body, and
your letter brings to me warmly in heart!
I feel excellently, especially when I think of
you, about us, after all very soon I can be with
you nearby and from this thought I feel the happy
woman! I think of us so often, that I always feel
excellently!
I only, that have come from walk with Drugok, I
dreamt of how we will walk together with you, and
these thoughts have given me very big elation.
I represent, as we will walk together with you in
the evenings as we with you will go, keeping for
hands to embrace each other... Oh, these sweet
dreams force me to forget about all on light!

I wished to tell to you of more details about a
meeting.

I this morning was in agency. I have chosen the
best agency for travel to you. To me once again
have in detail explained, that I should make. To
me have explained also about the visa. The best
variant for 3 months,
It almost freedom of actions. I will arrive to you
under this visa and if we remain together for ever
I can prolong the visa, not coming back in Russia.
Also to me have told, that the contract consists
that all does agency and if I conclude this
contract, for me there will be no excitements
neither with tickets, nor with documents, with the
visa. As to about transportation Drugok your
country I think that it is not necessary to carry
it because can be what or problems connected with
transportation of animals. Therefore I have
decided to leave its houses under mum's
guardianship. Also I have specified contract cost,
i.e. all documents and tickets. It has a little
afflicted me, and I am afraid, that we cannot meet
soon if I will count only on my financial
position. It is really expensive to me to pay all.
As you know I live one with mum and we do not have
big earnings. . I absolutely was disappointed in
it, after all I was in one step with the happiness
because I really wish to arrive to you. I even was
already morally adjusted on a trip, but
unfortunately the trip leaves the expensive. I do
not know, that to me to do...

I saw today one of my colleagues from whom we went
in Nignii Novgorod. We had conversation and I have
told to it, that soon I gather abroad to the man
who for me is very important! It was very glad for
me!
You probably were upset because of my news?
Therefore I wish to send you some photos to cheer
you up! I hope, you will like my new photos.


I will finish the letter for today, I wait for
your fast reply, I promise to write soon!
Kisses,
Yours Maria.

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Malcolm
Posted 2008-05-13 8:14 PM (#13340 - in reply to #13339)
Subject: RE: hi again folks


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Hi Bob, it does have the whiff of scam about it but the only way to really be sure about the truth is to offer to meet "her" in Russia. If it's a scam then "she" will make excuses about why you can't meet in Russia, if she's genuine then the worst that can happen is you get a short holiday in Russia. It's a bit of a gamble but always worth a try.
TonyH
Posted 2008-05-13 9:01 PM (#13342 - in reply to #13328)
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Personally I would tell her that you will come to see her and to forget about her coming to the Uk for the time being. She will find it very difficult to get a UK visa for a tour without the very thing that she is saying she not....ie money and a good income (in fact impossible honestly) but then you should know that from this forum.

tony

stuey
Posted 2008-05-14 1:29 PM (#13349 - in reply to #13342)
Subject: RE: hi again folks
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I have come across similar letters in the past. I know that English may be a difficult language for some people to learn, but in my experiences even the people who know very little can string sentances together with better diction.
The scammers seem to send you very long and informative emails, hoping that you will get lost in the flow of what is being said. When you write to them they tend to pick out a few questions that you ask and avoid the important questions. Like are you a scammer! They will give out lots of details of themselves and their family and friends.
Has she sent you her full name and address? You could google her and see if she comes up on the scam websites.
Kazan does have a LOT of scammers!
borninrussia
Posted 2008-05-14 4:06 PM (#13351 - in reply to #13349)
Subject: RE: hi again folks


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stuey - 14/5/2008 1:29 PM

I know that English may be a difficult language for some people to learn, but in my experiences even the people who know very little can string sentances together with better diction.

ie they don't call their colleagues "it"
Just to inform - the letter is written in deliberately broken English, it is not a direct translation from Rus

Edited by borninrussia 2008-05-14 4:08 PM
GaryM
Posted 2008-05-14 5:16 PM (#13352 - in reply to #13339)
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bobnic - 13/5/2008 4:56 PM

well as expected here it comes the dreaded email saying she has a limited funds so again i guess it was just another scam,one that i was told maybe wasnt


Hello my lovely, my dream Bob. At me today solar
remarkable day! The sun brings heat to a body, and
your letter brings to me warmly in heart!
I feel excellently, especially when I think of
you, about us, after all very soon I can be with
you nearby and from this thought I feel the happy
woman! I think of us so often, that I always feel
excellently!
.
.
.

Another scammer I'm afraid. See the letter halfway down the page of the following link that begins with the identical text...

"Letter 20 03.07.07
Hello my lovely, my dream xxxxx. At me today solar remarkable day! The sun brings heat to a body, and your letter brings to me warmly in heart! I feel excellently, especially when I think about you, about us."


http://russiandetective.forumup.org/post-13428-russiandetective.htm...
CDG
Posted 2011-10-21 12:30 PM (#47199 - in reply to #13328)
Subject: Re: hi again folks
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Why are they always long winded? This looks like the easiest give away without having to do all this searching.

A normal person would sometimes send just 2 or 3 lines, not always war and peace.
Malcolm
Posted 2011-10-21 12:42 PM (#47200 - in reply to #13328)
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...er, this thread is three years old. I think someone is digging up old stuff.
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