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New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011
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muffy
Posted 2011-08-17 3:18 PM (#45380 - in reply to #45377)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011
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Pokuston - 2011-08-17 2:16 PM

That's very interesting! I've just got back from St P and have had nagging doubts about deregistration as I still have my registration slip.

The confusion started when my hosts said that they didn't need the reg. slip. So I decided to ask at the tourist office to double check, and the staff there said I should keep the slip for passport control at Pulkovo airport. But the immigration offical there didn't even want to see it.

I was concerned that I'd broken the rules because I still have the slip, although it's been really confusing trying to work out which is the correct procedure concerning deregistration. Do I hand back the slip to my hosts (as I did when I visited St P in August last year) or to the immigration officials? I was unaware of the latter procedure until I started researching the system over the weekend. Was deregistration at passport control introduced recently?

While I'm not planning any more trips to Russia in the immediate future, I certainly would like to go back at some point, and obviously I don't wanted to be banned from the country for not following proper procedures. But am I right in thinking that I needn't worry, as I've been deregistered anyway, when I went through passport controls at the airport? Sorry for yet another question about this issue!!
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David


As explained above you are ok, you are deregistrated automatically when you go through passport control. I have not have my migration slip taken off me at both DME & SVO, looks Pulkovo is the same as well.
Malcolm
Posted 2011-08-18 10:49 AM (#45387 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Just got back from Moscow and here's my registration experience:
No immigration forms handed out on the BMI flight, so I filled in one that I had with me just in case.
Handed passport and immigtation form to passport control officer at DME who threw it away and printed a new one which he stamped and gave to me with the passport.
Registered with RealRussia as usual who gave me back the registration slip the following day. Natalia told me that I didn't need to give the form to passport control unless they asked for it.
On departure from DME the passport control officer took the immigration form but wasn't interested in the registration slip.
That's it.

Why do they bother with this ridiculous bit of beaurocracy? It's a waste of eveyone's time and money.
Chris
Posted 2011-08-18 12:38 PM (#45389 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Oh don't get me started ...
Malcolm
Posted 2011-08-18 12:43 PM (#45390 - in reply to #45389)
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Chris - 2011-08-18 12:38 PM

Oh don't get me started ...


Go on, you know you want to...
peter northampton
Posted 2011-08-23 11:26 AM (#45468 - in reply to #41064)
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Please.... I want to hear this
Chris
Posted 2011-08-23 12:33 PM (#45471 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Well ...

Having just returned from Russia where we had de-registered from our flat, my wife needed to sign some documents at the bank "oh oh" they say, "no registration, no signing of documents allowed"

so off my wife goes to the migration service to register temporarly in her mums flat - cant do it in our flat as I was not their to give her permission.

Anyhow, the "nice" lady at the migration office says, "where are you registered at the moment"

to which my wife replies "nowhere, I live in the UK now"

"so show me your UK registration" says the plesant and freindly migraiton offical

"errr ... we dont have registration in the UK" my wife replies

"WHAT! I cant believe it, no registration, not possible, how can this be?" (literal translation)

"err ... they just dont need it"

"No, no, if I cant beleive it and I cant register you in two places - you must be some kind of con artist"

"Not really, I just need to register, what can I do"

"Show me your place of registration in the UK" etc etc etc

"Not possible. Isn't there anything we can do"

"Well, you could get a letter saying that there is no registration in the UK"

Perking up, a glimmer of hope, "Oh yes, who from"

With deadpan seriousness "The registration office"

and so on for over a week.

There is a purpose to registration and I can see it uses, however the way it is implemented and managed is basically a massive pain in the backside.
Malcolm
Posted 2011-08-23 1:04 PM (#45473 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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...and the purpose is?
Mel
Posted 2011-08-23 1:43 PM (#45474 - in reply to #45473)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Malcolm - 2011-08-23 6:04 PM ...and the purpose is?

To enable a person to prove where he/she lives in order to be allowed to sign bank and other official/legal doccuments, and of course to be allowed to vote......  



Edited by Mel 2011-08-23 1:44 PM
Malcolm
Posted 2011-08-23 2:30 PM (#45475 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Vote for what?
natashsharkey
Posted 2011-08-23 3:50 PM (#45477 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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to get registered you numpty.........johnnyboyracer.......on the wifee,s lappy again..giving it a bit of battenburg/sherry.lol
Mel
Posted 2011-08-23 4:34 PM (#45478 - in reply to #45475)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Malcolm - 2011-08-23 7:30 PM Vote for what?

Who Malcolm, not what, WHO.......

Malcolm
Posted 2011-08-23 7:05 PM (#45479 - in reply to #45478)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Mel - 2011-08-23 4:34 PM

Malcolm - 2011-08-23 7:30 PM Vote for what?

Who Malcolm, not what, WHO.......



There is no who or what, there is only the certainty of no choice.
wiz
Posted 2011-08-24 8:39 AM (#45481 - in reply to #45471)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Chris - 2011-08-23 12:33 PM

Well ...

Having just returned from Russia where we had de-registered from our flat, my wife needed to sign some documents at the bank "oh oh" they say, "no registration, no signing of documents allowed"


Chris

Sorry if I may sound dumb but why your wife had to de-register?

Reason asking is because my wife has not de-register from her flat.... and had no problem signing any documents last two weeks was there, this month! As it happens we pay everything for the flat via baboushka.

PS: The rest of your post is a gem ........ sheer ......... !
DITTRICH
Posted 2011-08-30 7:46 PM (#45592 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011
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I collected my migration card at Buratchki on the M9 and then 6 days later tried to register at the post office in Moscow. Ah, they don't send us the forms anymore, they said - go to the migration service. So we did and 10 minutes later, I got my slip of paper stamped FOR FREE. On departure they took the migration card back (departure part) and were not interested in the slip of paper. Les
Chris
Posted 2011-08-31 8:54 AM (#45598 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Hi Wiz

She de-registered herself and the kids as we no longer live there and don't want to pay the 13,000 RUB a month communal charges; there is no option to say you are not there full time or that it is your main home, you are either registered and paying full taxes, or you are not.

Chris
wiz
Posted 2011-08-31 6:56 PM (#45606 - in reply to #41064)
Subject: RE: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011


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Thanks Chris

Now I know why we have to continue paying al charges..... till baboushka........... kick the bucket.

Thanks again.
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