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Questions about the current visa regime
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DITTRICH
Posted 2018-08-17 10:16 PM (#100984)
Subject: Questions about the current visa regime
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I'm married to a dual national UK/RF lady with a dual national UK/RF son. In 2012 I had been getting TOURIST VISAS no problem for many years since around 1999. Now the form is rather complex online. Given I am applying for the same visa as before, do I really need to put the in-laws onto my application form? Or my wife and son? Can't I just be a tourist like before?
DITTRICH
Posted 2018-08-17 10:20 PM (#100987 - in reply to #100984)
Subject: RE: Questions about the current visa regime
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I should add that I have a pdf of my 2012 application form which doesn't have anything about relatives in Russia on it. It just says I'm married and my wife was born in Moscow.
Chris
Posted 2018-08-24 9:58 AM (#101255 - in reply to #100984)
Subject: Re: Questions about the current visa regime


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Well, basically the Russian embassy in UK has been playing silly games since 2014 and modifying the visa forms on the basis of "reciprocity", further they introduced a pilot project for bio-metric/fingerprinting (only in UK and 3 other countries).

The Russian ambassador is playing to the gallery at home to show that "Russian cannot be pushed around". Specifically he has stated that the UK visa form has these "anti-Russian" questions, and the Russian consulate will only remove their questions now when the UK does - however, these questions are part of the fully integrated UK consular, visa and migration processes and are applied to all nationalities regardless, without fear or favour and used to determine visa issuance whereas the Russian ones are just there to annoy and for political posturing.

The same applies to the bio-metrics, this is a pilot project that has no goals, no end date and no purpose other than to annoy - the fingerprints are not even used, just collected and dumped.

Wonderful eh?
newrules
Posted 2018-08-24 8:21 PM (#101268 - in reply to #101255)
Subject: Re: Questions about the current visa regime
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The Russian visas are issued 2 weeks before you get them. Maybe if you go to the consulate you can ask them for your passport. I know this because my issue date was 2 weeks before I got my passport and visa.
Chris
Posted 2018-08-25 9:29 AM (#101273 - in reply to #100984)
Subject: Re: Questions about the current visa regime


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Yes, again because the Russian consulate are deliberatly holding onto them for and extra two weeks and claiming this delay is because they dont have the staff to process them after a bunch of non consular staff were kicked out over Skripol in March / April - laughable if it was not so sad.

You can ask, how knows it may work.
DITTRICH
Posted 2018-09-05 11:48 PM (#101989 - in reply to #100984)
Subject: Re: Questions about the current visa regime
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I'm back! I put the purpose as tourism. I paid for a bullshit voucher for 30 days at the holiday inn sokolniki. I put my inlaws in Russia in the application. My wife and son, both dual nationals who travelled before me from london, i left off the application as they live in london. My wife used her domestic passport and moscow propiska to register me at her russian apartment on the 7th day after my arrival friday arrived/next friday registered at the "my documents" centre in sokolniki. it was free and i got registered after my wife filled out 2 identical forms and a permission form to process her personal data. i got one tear off slip to keep and I was told to hand it in on departure. The departure passport guy wasn't interested and I still have it. Since 6 years ago the migration form is automated and computerised straight from the passport and visa by ocr. customs green channel in and out. no more declaration forms at the airport. the visa fees are crazy for the 1-3 day service but i got it on time in august. the online application pdf refuses to record my russian language ability but the visa centre said its bullshit and i got my visa anyway. hope this helps someone.
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