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jay
Posted 2012-12-15 4:10 PM (#54371)
Subject: Good Afternoon
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Hello im Jason, ive just started a corresponance with a loverly Russian lady from Saratov, she is hoping to visit the uk soon.
Mel
Posted 2012-12-15 4:22 PM (#54372 - in reply to #54371)
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jay - 2012-12-15 9:10 PM Hello im Jason, ive just started a corresponance with a loverly Russian lady from Saratov, she is hoping to visit the uk soon.

Do not send her any money...........

YZF-R1
Posted 2012-12-15 4:25 PM (#54373 - in reply to #54371)
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How soon??
moscowflyer
Posted 2012-12-16 8:46 PM (#54387 - in reply to #54371)
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My Dear wife is a Saratovian too!!!!
jay
Posted 2012-12-17 1:39 PM (#54401 - in reply to #54373)
Subject: RE: Good Afternoon
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Well she is in the process of sorting a visa and tickets and hoping to come over in the next month or so, but ive been reading on this site about scammers, mybe me being cynical but i think she is one of them, shes already taking about not being able to come over becuase of finance, and she can pay some of the cost and her parents are helping her, but asked if i could help. she is using an agent in Saratov

From what ive been reading about scammers it follows all the same threads as alot of other scams, her ex husband cheated on her, she lives with her parents, they have no home phone or internet, she has a g/mail account and i tracked it to a internet cafe, she has sent me lots of photos, her on her own and with her family and dog lol.

I not a cynical person but im not stupid either, i will not be sending any money to her, if it comes to it i dont mind paying for the flight but ill buy the tickets.

ANY SURGESTION OR HELP WOULD BE GREATLY RECIVED
jay
Posted 2012-12-17 1:43 PM (#54402 - in reply to #54387)
Subject: Re: Good Afternoon
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Well thats great m8 i read abit about saratov, so how did you meet her ? ive given up of uk women most are so up there own backsides its unbelivable, so i was trying to make a corransponce with a loverly russian lady.

Hope your life with her is great.
Malcolm
Posted 2012-12-17 2:06 PM (#54403 - in reply to #54371)
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Do not send any money, do not buy any tickets, do not continue any correspondence. This is a scammer. The pattern is exactly the same as many others have found, some to their cost.
If you want to be certain ask for an address and a phone number. This "lady" is probably a fat bloke called Igor or Yuri sending out hundreds of emails in the hope of snaring one lucky punter who will come across with the readies.
Post a couple of pictures here and I think some of the chaps will probably recognise "her" from previous scams.
jay
Posted 2012-12-17 2:16 PM (#54404 - in reply to #54403)
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This is a photo of her she said she is from Saratov her name is Irina



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Mel
Posted 2012-12-17 3:29 PM (#54406 - in reply to #54404)
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Well well well, would you credit it, Natalia from Ishevsk is back on the scene....
YZF-R1
Posted 2012-12-17 4:46 PM (#54408 - in reply to #54401)
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jay - 2012-12-17 1:39 PM

Well she is in the process of sorting a visa and tickets and hoping to come over in the next month or so,



That's why I asked "how soon??"

Onwards jay. Good Luck!


Rasboinik
Posted 2012-12-17 6:42 PM (#54409 - in reply to #54401)
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jay,

A few questions for you.

I will also give potential answers with a score, if the average is more that 7 then she is most likely "Fat Yuri the beer belly"

 

How was the first contact established?

If the answer is that she contacted you first then the score is a 7.

If it was you that initiated the contact then the score is a 5.

Have you asked her any specific questions? If the answer is a "yes" then the next question is did you get proper replies to your questions?

If the answer is that you did ask her specific questions and you did not get replies then the score is 10.

If you did get specific answers to your questions then the score is a 4.

In her communications has she stated that she is a good cook and the she really likes baking pies?

If the answer is that she has said that she is a good cook then the score is 8 if she likes baking pies then the score is 9.

Making the total score 17.

If she has not stated that she is a good cook then the score is a 4.

Does she have a mobile phone?

If the answer is no then the score is 10.

If the answer is yes then the score is a 6, if she has also given you her phone number and you have called her and spoken to her then the score is a -3

Making the total score for this question a 3.

 

 VERY IMPORTANT

  Have you offered to go and visit her in Saratov?

If you have and "she" has dissuaded you because of the dangers that foreigners can be exposed to when travelling in Russia then the score is 100.


She has asked you for financial help so that she can come to visit you, I am afraid that, for that she scores a 10.

As an explanation for my last comment, when I meet the lady that is now my wife (I meet her in person when I was working in Russia) I had to beat her with a stick before she would accept financial help.

Now that she is my wife I no longer have to use a stick.

 

Some suggestions for your future communications.

Tell her that you have to go into Hospital for a minor issue (you fell off your bike And you damaged you knee) and see the reaction.

Real concern from her will deduct a score of 1 from the previous calculated average, no reaction will add a score of 10 to the previous calculated average.

Offer to meet her in Saratov, the excuse that you can make is that you have discovered that is most likely that she will be refused a visa unless you have meet in person.

Excuses that you should not meet in Saratov will add a score of 100 to the previous calculated average,  acceptance that you will visit her first means that you will have to apply for a visitor (Tourist) visa for Russia and once you have the visa you will have to book tickets and go to meet her.

 

Malcolm
Posted 2012-12-17 7:00 PM (#54411 - in reply to #54409)
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Rasboinik - 2012-12-17 6:42 PM

In her communications has she stated that she is a good cook and the she really likes baking pies?

If the answer is that she has said that she is a good cook then the score is 8 if she likes baking pies then the score is 9.



And if she like baking pies ask her if she likes making buns. If the answer is yes, tell her you would be delighted to help her put one in the oven

Rasboinik
Posted 2012-12-17 7:27 PM (#54413 - in reply to #54411)
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Malcolm - 2012-12-18 5:00 AM
Rasboinik - 2012-12-17 6:42 PM In her communications has she stated that she is a good cook and the she really likes baking pies?

 

If the answer is that she has said that she is a good cook then the score is 8 if she likes baking pies then the score is 9.

And if she like baking pies ask her if she likes making buns. If the answer is yes, tell her you would be delighted to help her put one in the oven

 

 

 
 
  
 
 

 

GaryM
Posted 2012-12-17 9:26 PM (#54415 - in reply to #54404)
Subject: Re: Good Afternoon
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Oh look, the woman with more than one name...

http://vk.com/id86982657
https://www.facebook.com/sophia.ting.967
http://antiarnaques.org/en/blacklist/1449


Most likely the pictures the scammers are using were stolen from the vkontakte profile and Vitalina Alexeeva is probably the real name of the woman in the photos. The guy sending the emails with copies of the photos attached is probably called Boris.

And here is a nice fake passport from the blacklist site (posted here for future reference). If you look closely you can tell the photo has just been photoshopped on.

Edited by GaryM 2012-12-17 9:47 PM




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jay
Posted 2012-12-17 9:56 PM (#54417 - in reply to #54408)
Subject: RE: Good Afternoon
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Hey just wonted to say to you all thank you very much, to be honest i proberly new it was a scam, but my heart didnt wont to listen, but like people have said onwards and upwards, i hope you all have a loverly christmas.

Jay
jay
Posted 2012-12-18 5:28 PM (#54442 - in reply to #54372)
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Hello.

Jay

Edited by jay 2012-12-18 5:30 PM
jay
Posted 2012-12-18 5:31 PM (#54443 - in reply to #54372)
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hello mel ive sent you a message but it seems to have just stayed in my outbox ?
Mel
Posted 2012-12-18 5:37 PM (#54444 - in reply to #54443)
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jay - 2012-12-18 10:31 PM hello mel ive sent you a message but it seems to have just stayed in my outbox ?

Messages stay in ones outbox until they are read by the recipient, I've read it and replied....



Edited by Mel 2012-12-18 5:38 PM
jay
Posted 2012-12-18 9:02 PM (#54449 - in reply to #54444)
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oh okey thank you for that
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